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Acne Scars

The dips and the flat marks left in the skin after the acne itself has gone.

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What causes acne scars?

What causes it

What causes acne scars?

The acne stopped years ago and the skin still shows where it was: shallow dips across the cheeks that appear in side lighting and disappear under flat light, and brown marks where the last breakouts sat.

Acne scarring is what the skin is left with after inflammation has reached the dermis, the layer below the surface where collagen sits. A blocked pore that stays shallow heals without a mark. Where the inflammation goes deeper, the immune response destroys collagen fibres in the dermis, and the repair the body builds afterwards is not an exact copy of what was lost.

Where the skin rebuilds with too little collagen, a depression is left behind. These are atrophic scars, and they take three shapes that behave differently under treatment. Ice pick scars are narrow, under two millimetres across, with a sharp margin that runs down into the deep dermis. Boxcar scars are wider, between one and a half and four millimetres, round or oval, with sharply cut vertical edges and a flat floor. Rolling scars have no distinct edge at all. The surface slopes and undulates because strands of fibrous tissue anchor the underside of the skin to the layer beneath and hold the surface down.

Where the repair lays down too much collagen, the scar sits above the skin instead. A hypertrophic scar is the same size as the acne lesion that caused it. A keloid is larger than the lesion that caused it. Both appear more on the chest, shoulders, neck and jawline, where the skin is under greater tension.

The flat red and brown marks left after a breakout are not scars. The red comes from a change in the small blood vessels with thinning of the epidermis above them. The brown is melanin laid down in skin that was recently inflamed. No collagen has been lost or gained in either case, and colour changes from acne improve with time, though that can take months or longer.

Before you spend anything on either, run a fingertip slowly across the area with your eyes closed. A mark you cannot feel is colour. A dip or a ridge you can feel is a scar.

Why it happens to some skin

Why do some people scar and others don't?

The strongest predictors of acne scarring are a family history of it and delay in treating the acne.

Depth comes next. The deeper the acne goes into the skin, the more likely it is to cause a scar, so nodules and cysts leave more behind than papules and pustules sitting near the surface. The worst severity the acne ever reached counts, and so does how long it ran, because the duration and severity of acne correlates to the degree of resultant scarring. Acne of any severity can leave scars, so mild acne does not rule scarring out.

What was done to individual spots counts too. Picking, popping and squeezing push the contents of a lesion further into the skin and raise the inflammation, and more inflammation means more risk of both a scar and a dark mark.

Genetics sets how readily skin inflames and how it heals, and the genes a person inherits can make their skin more likely to scar. Smoking increases the risk of more severe acne scarring.

Skin tone changes the marks rather than the scars. Post-inflammatory pigmentation is more common in darker skin, where the colour is more intense and sits for longer than it does in lighter skin. Sun exposure holds those patches: they darken under ultraviolet light, so a mark that would have faded can stay for a year on a face that gets no protection.

What can I do at home?

What you can do

What can I do at home?

Nothing applied to the surface fills a depression or flattens a raised scar. Both are changes in the dermis and a cream works above it. What home care does is stop the next scar forming and clear the flat marks, and on acne scarring that is most of what anyone can do for themselves.

Getting the acne itself under control comes first, because a breakout that never inflames leaves nothing behind. Prescription acne treatment comes from a doctor who prescribes it, and the dermatology advice is to start early rather than wait, since delay is among the strongest predictors of scarring.

Then stop picking. Squeezing a spot pushes its contents deeper into the skin, which raises the inflammation and with it the chance of a scar and a brown mark in the same place.

Daily sun protection decides how long the brown marks last, because the patches darken in ultraviolet light. Broad spectrum, SPF 30 or higher, and the American Academy of Dermatology sets out how much to use and how often to reapply.

A topical retinoid is the one product class with evidence on both halves of the problem. Retinoids treat comedonal and inflammatory acne, they help post-inflammatory pigmentation, and they may reduce the severity of existing scarring. It may take twelve weeks or longer before any improvement shows, and that wait is why people give up on them.

On a raised scar, silicone gel or a silicone patch is the home measure with evidence behind it.

Abrasive scrubs do nothing for a scar, because they work on the surface while the scar sits below it. Extracting anything yourself makes the odds worse.

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Treatment

How are acne scars treated?

Active acne is treated before scar work starts. The dermatology guidance is explicit, that active acne should be treated prior to commencing scar management. New lesions keep scarring the same area while the older scars are being corrected.

Microneedling is the most direct of the treatments we offer. Controlled micro-injury at a set depth stimulates the skin's own collagen production over the weeks that follow, and the scars it improves are the depressed kind. Intensif RF microneedling adds radiofrequency energy through 25 gold-plated needles, 300 microns thin, and heats the papillary and reticular dermis, deeper than needles alone reach. Skin continues to improve for up to a year after the last session. PRP, prepared from your own blood, is combined with microneedling in the same session to amplify the collagen response.

Scar type decides how much changes. Rolling scars and shallow boxcar scars improve over a course of treatment. Deep boxcar scars, with their sharp vertical edges, resist resurfacing. Ice pick scars are the narrowest and the deepest of the three, and their depth of involvement makes them resistant to conventional skin resurfacing options, so they respond least to anything we offer. Saying that before a course starts is more useful than discovering it afterwards.

Chemical peels work from the surface down. Medium-depth peels, Jessner's and TCA, work on surface scarring, and salicylic acid peels work inside the pore on acne-prone skin. SilkPeel dermalinfusion exfoliates and infuses a serum in one step. Peels and SilkPeel both work on the brown marks.

IPL on the Angelite SDC treats the red marks and scar pigmentation, because the light is taken up by the blood vessels and the pigment rather than by collagen.

A raised scar needs the opposite of collagen stimulation, so these treatments are not the answer for a raised scar.

One face can carry three scar types and a set of brown marks at the same time, so a plan combines treatments and runs them in an order.

Alongside treatment

Can creams do anything about acne scars?

Can creams do anything about acne scars?

Blemish + Age Defence, SkinCeuticals

An oil-free salicylic acid serum for acne-prone skin. What it works on is the breakout that would otherwise leave the next scar. It does nothing to a scar already in the skin.

Can creams do anything about acne scars?

Retinol 0.5%, Vivier

A topical retinoid, the class with evidence for treating acne, helping post-inflammatory pigmentation and reducing the severity of existing scarring. Twelve weeks or longer before a change shows. Start lower if your skin is reactive.

Can creams do anything about acne scars?

Physical Fusion SPF 50, SkinCeuticals

A mineral broad-spectrum sunscreen formulated for sensitive and post-procedure skin. Ultraviolet light is what keeps a brown mark dark, so daily use decides how long the marks sit rather than whether the scars improve.

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Treatment at Lucie Mé

How to treat acne scars at Lucie Mé in Toronto

Lucie Mé, established 2010, treats acne scarring at both Toronto clinics. Microneedling and Intensif RF microneedling work on the depressed scars, and PRP is combined with microneedling in the same session. A chemical peel works on surface scarring and on the brown marks, SilkPeel dermalinfusion exfoliates and infuses in one step, and IPL treats the red marks and scar pigmentation. Where the complaint is roughness and dullness across the skin rather than scarring, uneven skin texture covers what else is involved.

The Yorkville clinic at Holt Renfrew Centre serves downtown Toronto, Bloor-Yorkville, Rosedale, The Annex and the central neighbourhoods. The Fairview Mall clinic in North York serves North York, Thornhill, Vaughan, Markham, Richmond Hill and the northern suburbs. Local microneedling pages are up for both: Yorkville and North York.

Which scar types are on your own face is settled by looking at the skin in raking light rather than from a description of it. Consultations are complimentary at both clinics. Book with whichever is closer.

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Two Toronto clinics

Two Toronto clinics

Lucie Mé Yorkville

50 Bloor Street West, Unit C10, Holt Renfrew Centre, Toronto, Ontario, M4W 3L8

(416) 637-7377

Two Toronto clinics

Lucie Mé Fairview Mall (North York)

CF Fairview Mall, 1800 Sheppard Avenue East, Toronto, Ontario, M2J 5A7

(416) 492-6111

Common questions

Questions about acne scars

Do acne scars fade on their own?

The flat marks fade and the scars do not, so which of the two you have decides whether waiting is sensible. A red or brown mark left after a breakout is a change in colour with the structure of the skin intact. The red comes from a change in the small blood vessels with thinning of the epidermis above them, and the brown is melanin laid down in skin that was recently inflamed. Colour changes from acne improve with time, and that can take months or longer, longer again in darker skin and longer still on a face that gets no sun protection. A scar is different, because tissue has been lost or added. Acne scars can fade, and they rarely go away completely on their own. A depressed scar is the finished result of the repair rather than a stage on the way to one, and the skin around it loses collagen with age, so the same scar can read more strongly at fifty than it did at twenty. Raised scars are the one case where waiting is reasonable, since a hypertrophic scar is more likely to regress than a keloid. Run a fingertip over the area with your eyes closed: colour you cannot feel will keep fading, and a dip or a ridge you can feel is what treatment is for.

Are the red and brown marks left after a spot scars?

No, and treating them as scars means paying for the wrong thing. The clinical names are post-inflammatory erythema for the red and post-inflammatory hyperpigmentation for the brown. In both, the skin came through with its collagen intact and only its colour changed. That is why the two need opposite treatment. A scar needs collagen built into a depression, which means needles or energy. A mark needs its colour broken down, which means light taken up by the vessels or the pigment, peels, or topicals working on melanin, and a mark will also clear on its own with time and sun protection. Pigment is more stubborn in darker skin, where post-inflammatory pigmentation is more intense and persists longer than it does in lighter skin, and ultraviolet light darkens the patches further, so sun protection changes the timeline more than any product does. Marks and scars sit side by side on a face that has had significant acne, and they can occupy the same spot: a dip in the surface with a brown mark lying flat inside it. Clearing the marks first shows how much real scarring is there, which is a cheaper way to find out than a course of treatment aimed at scars that turn out to be pigment.

Which acne scars respond to treatment and which do not?

Rolling scars and shallow boxcar scars improve over a course of treatment, and sharp narrow ice pick scars respond least to anything we offer. The difference is depth and shape. Ice pick scars are under two millimetres across with a sharp margin extending to the deep dermis, and that depth of involvement makes them resistant to conventional skin resurfacing. Boxcar scars split by depth: the shallow ones respond to resurfacing treatment and the deeper ones, with their sharply cut vertical edges, resist it. Rolling scars are held down from underneath by fibrous tissue anchoring the dermis to the layer below, so correction has to address that pull as well as the collagen at the surface. Microneedling and RF microneedling stimulate collagen production in the depression and work best on rolling and boxcar scarring. The improvement builds over the weeks after each session and keeps developing after the course finishes, since collagen remodelling continues past twelve months, so judging a result a fortnight after the last appointment undersells it. The honest target is a clear improvement in how light falls across the skin rather than a flat surface. Raised scars are a separate case: they are the result of too much collagen, so building more collagen is not the answer.

Can I have scar treatment while my acne is still active?

No, active acne is treated before scar treatment starts, and the order is not a preference. Resurfacing or needling a face that is still producing nodules and cysts means new scars form in the same area while the old ones are being corrected, so you pay twice for the same patch of skin. Treating inflamed skin also raises the chance of the treatment leaving pigment change behind it. Prescription acne treatment comes from a doctor who prescribes it, so the sequence runs in that order: get the acne treated, hold it clear, then look at what scarring is left. The wait is not wasted time, because the flat red and brown marks fade during it and what remains at the end is the real scarring, which can be less than the mirror suggested while the acne was active. Some treatment can run alongside acne that is mild and settled. Salicylic acid is oil-soluble and works inside the pore, so salicylic peels do useful work on breakouts and on the marks they leave, repeated every two to four weeks. For severe or cystic acne, peels sit alongside medical treatment rather than instead of it. What does not run alongside active acne is anything that resurfaces or needles the skin.

What does acne scar treatment cost in Toronto?

Cost depends on which scar types are present, because the treatments that correct them are priced differently and used in different amounts, so a figure quoted before anyone has looked at your face would be a guess. Microneedling and Intensif are priced by session and by course, since collagen builds across a series rather than in one appointment, and scarring takes more sessions than surface texture does. A face that also carries red and brown marks needs IPL or peels alongside the needling, which is a second line on the plan rather than a different one. A face whose scarring is mostly ice pick needs something other than microneedling, and that changes the arithmetic again. Area matters as well, since scarring across both cheeks, the temples and the jawline takes longer per session than one cheek. Then there is how long the result holds. Collagen built by a course of RF microneedling continues to improve for up to a year after the final session rather than wearing off, so the cost sits against years instead of months. Products are a separate cost and the part that protects the result, because a retinoid and a daily sunscreen keep the marks fading between appointments. Consultations are complimentary at both clinics, and the plan and its cost are set out for your own skin there.

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